IE9 Includes Hardware Accelerated Canvas

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  • Anonymous
    January 01, 2003
    Hi, I am waiting IE 9, wonderful! My comments in www.atasozlerianlamlari.com web site.

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    Hi, The videos don't work in Opera 10.60 or in Minefield. Can you also provide WebM versions? Thanks, Ray

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    ohoh, looks good but some demos (using raster data) are still slow like this: http://guciek.net/test/burn it is great for you to support "shader-like" function to acclerate raster processing.

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    Next year? Or two years away? Every other browser has had canvas for quite some time so that will put you guys 3 years behind by then?

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    The link to the Wikipedia article regarding immediate mode is incorrect.

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    @Rob Every other IE enthusiast has been asking about canvas in IE for quite some time so that puts you 3 years behind?

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    @Ray You can install Silverlight and watch the videos in Opera 10.60.

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    @Wheret: I'd prefer not to. I shouldn't have to install additional software just to view a webpage. It should just work in my web browser - same markup, same content, all browsers. And it can. It's easy and I warmly encourage the IE team to do so.

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    kudos to the team. i'd like to confess that i didn't believe the ie team would implement the canvas tag as it competes directly with silverlight. i was wrong and i now see that microsoft is serious about standards. WHAT A CHANGE! two things though:

  1. i hope to see fewer silverlhigt videos from MS especially at IE related blogs and sites.
  2. I now believe IE would not get webGL. since microsoft pushes direcx, and will not deal with anything opengl. PROVE I'M WROG!
  3. i hear a lot of dissing about competing browsers. why? compete on your own merit

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    @meni While Microsoft dissing other browsers isn't great, they some what have to. How often do you hear people saying "don't use IE, use Firefox/Chrome/Safari/Opera because it stinks at XYZ"? The best way to combat that is to show, "Hey we can do XYZ better then them". Childish, yes. But who started it?

  • Anonymous
    July 01, 2010
    IE Team: meni brings up a good point, how are you positioning Silverlight in IE9? Is to be only for .NET programers?

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    @ray complain to Opera about their browser not being interoperable with H.264 video. Chrome, Safari, and IE9 will support it. At least Microsoft was nice enough to provide a fallback to Silverlight since Opera doesn't want to support the leading video format.

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    @Hans @Snowknight26 - Thanks.  We updated the wikipedia link.

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    i don't see the videos either with Chrome

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    WoW! Very good news, almost a double whammy- IE9 supports canvas, and fast! Kudos to the advent of modern browsers like Chrome and FireFox - which actually enable the most and rest of world who are not on IE9 to "see" the content (IE8 just shows images in that place) Yeah, it may be like IE playing catchup- but then choice is always good for consumer, and IE team deserves all the praise they deserve to be a worthy hopeful of top slot again. One query- does this mean VML is officially deprecated, or will there be a separate announcement for it? Asking because some people I know are not migrating to non-IE browsers coz of lack of VML (and they might be fine to switch to IE9 if business lasts till the point it becomes generally available) ;)

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    So, if this page uses the "canvas" element, how come it's coded in XHTML 1.0 Transitional? Last time I checked there was no "canvas" element in XHTML 1.0. The page should use HTML5, shouldn't it?

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    @Bertil, I believe IE uses standards compliance mode whenever it encounters a doctype it doesn't recognize, which includes XHTML since IE doesn't know XHTML. As to the news, this is great. I think we'll start to see a lot more exciting web apps as a result of this and I have to say I am very impressed by the overall performance of IE9 so far.

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    Google offers Chrome Frame. Can you guys please do something similar or better?

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    @AndyC IE9 preview does recognize XHTML

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    @AndyC: They could have used the HTML5 doctype which triggers standards mode for any modern browser and IE (including version 6): "<!DOCTYPE html>"

  • Anonymous
    July 02, 2010
    Sorry for the off topic, I just want to point out a bug (or is it a feature?) in IE8 on Windows 7 (it doesn't happen on Windows XP, and I don't have a Vista machine to try). It takes about 30 seconds for all IE processes to actually close after exiting all browser windows. You can see rundll32.exe cleaning up the processes in the task manager after about 30 seconds. This is really annoying and keeps me from using IE as my main browser. I have IE delete cookies on exit to enhance privacy, so it is important that all processes terminate when I close the browser, so that I can have a fresh session when I open it again. Also, if I close IE and then shutdown Windows, when I turn on my pc again and open IE, it says "Your last browser session closed unexpectedly", confirming my theory. And it seems like I am not the only one who noticed this, for example: social.answers.microsoft.com/.../2ce9a251-aa1a-46c8-af71-df74f12190e7 Please, solve this (or change this behaviour if it is a feature) in IE9. Thank you.

  • Anonymous
    July 03, 2010
    @James: Disable or update your buggy browser add-on and this problem will go away (www.enhanceie.com/ie/troubleshoot.asp#crash). The message indicating that "Your last browser session closed unexpectedly" indicated that IE didn't exit cleanly, and that occurred because one of your browser add-ons failed to properly unload.

  • Anonymous
    July 03, 2010
    Wow! Thanks for listening to your users (finally)!

  • Anonymous
    July 03, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 03, 2010
    I don't know what you mean by "safe mode." What Antivirus / Antispyware products do you have installed? Many of these hook IE in unsupported ways.

  • Anonymous
    July 03, 2010
    @EricLaw [MSFT]: Sorry, I used Firefox terminology, I meant "Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Internet Explorer (No Add-ons)". As for the antivirus/antispyware products, I use Microsoft Security Essentials (updated to the latest version available and with Defender automatically disabled by MSE). The issue occurs even with no antivirus installed (just Defender enabled); I remember this because I tried soon after a clean install, after installing all the updates through Windows Update and before installing any antivirus. Thank you for your time and attention.

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    July 03, 2010
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    July 03, 2010
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    July 03, 2010
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    July 03, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 04, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 04, 2010
    @EricLaw I have also seen the problem James describes many times.  It is more likely to happen after using IE with a fairly large number of tabs open for a few days.  Generally IE8 doesn't seem to handle using a lot of tabs very well, eventually strange things start happening like the refresh button stops working, and you have to close and reopen to fix it.

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    (Disclosure: I am an open-source, especially open-standards, unashamed fanboy) @Jace: Me thinks that you have a lot riding on Silverlight (learning/teaching investment maybe), which clouds your judgment IMHO. Sure, Silverlight might be "the best RIA framework currently in existance", but I believe it's not that important. This sort of debate has been unfold so many times. IPX is better the TCP/IP, CDMA is way better then GSM, VML is better then SVG etc... Being better is not important! What is important is openness, being patent-free, vendor-neutral, and cross platform. Sure, HTML5 might have some draw-backs, but for me ,and i suspect for many other developers: HTML5 is more important then Silverlight (Unless Silverlight becomes open-source, i see no other choice for Microsoft) BTW, i have nothing against Silverlight, have fun creating Silverlight apps :-)

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    @meni Funny, I don't do anything with Silverlight. Just calling it like it is.

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    Any plans for IE9 to support aPNG? (animated PNG)

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    Good job! Though, there's one major concern for developers: updates. Will you have a better update system? Will IE team release versions more frequently (IE 9.1, for instance). I'm really interested in your solutions for these issues. It would be great to see the whole IE users browsing with the latest version as soon as possible. Thank you for push the web.

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    @badger So help me out here... Are you sure you meant to reply to me? You might want to re-read my post, which was a reply to one 'Dooley', and tell me where I said anything about the IE team in relation to Silverlight. As stated above, it is my humble opinion that Silverlight is simply the best RIA platform out there in terms of development ease, security, stability and scalability (and overall coolness of the finished product ;-D) I personally don't code in Silverlight because I have quite a leaning to imperative languages. The declarative aspects of Silverlight are a bit of a barrier to entry for me... I think the advent of HTML5 is very interesting and somewhat exciting, especially the hardware acceleration that Microsoft is baking into IE9. It could be that HTML5 will become a solid, baseline platform for some great next-generation web applications. I think that Silverlight will extend that functionality to help cross certain boundaries - like cloud to local computer. I think that with the power of Silverlight atop the .Net Framework, enterprise software will become very interesting in the near future, replacing a large portion of ASP.Net apps...

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    Silverlight and .Net are the futures of the web. Open source fanboys may hate this, but this is the truth. There's nothing in the world that comes close to .Net.

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    Meny, I saw "lock-in" used so many times in varioius discussions yet it all the time seemed horribly abused. (with few exceptions...) What is vendor lock-in in this case?

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    == This blog systems is really wierd. it forces me to copy each post before clicking "Post" so i can recovre if it loses my post. Is this a dot net issue or just this impl? kLIMAX, are you arguing there are alternative implementation, like mono, to dot net? Until Microsoft publicly state they have no intentions to sue anyone re dotnet, the entire dotnet stack, mono is irrelevant IMO. Defensive patent suites are ok to ME, but i am talking not suing anyone else including competitors. Also Microsoft must show that their "openess" is real. I think that would be hard for their managment, after years of acting differently. On a slightly different note, this reminds me the IE for the Mac debacle (yes, ancient history but relevant). Who is to guaranty this would not repeat with Silverlight for the Mac? Then the vendor lock-in might be more visible.

  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
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  • Anonymous
    July 05, 2010
    FUD, i'll ignore the dotnet mono open or not flame war as i feel it doesn't belong here, but let me ask a question which i feel does belong here on the IEBlog: How do you feel that Microsoft, or a group at Microsoft, is promoting HTML5, a free, patentless, and open technology? What is YOUR vision of the future?

  • Anonymous
    July 06, 2010
    @EricLaw [MSFT] :  I see the same "IE8 wasn't closed in the right way, want to restore session?"-message if I open IE too soon after booting up my laptop.

  • Anonymous
    July 08, 2010
    WebGL?

  • Anonymous
    July 08, 2010
    @meni: why bother bringing up Mono at all if you don't think it should be discussed here? That was pointless. :

  • Anonymous
    July 08, 2010
    Honestly MS, just give up. You're always a step behind the other browers, your renderer is slow, you ignore standards and compatability. Just leave writing web browsers to the companies that do it better, like the Mozilla Foundation, Opera, Apple, <insert virtually anyone else here> and stick to the things you're good at, like... ummm... well, I'm sure something will spring to mind, eventually.

  • Anonymous
    July 08, 2010
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