Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Beta and Visual Studio support for Vista
Today, I’m pleased to announce the availability of the beta of Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1.
Based on your feedback, Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 addresses issues that were found through a combination of customer reports, MSDN Product Feedback Center and internal testing. I know that this Service Pack is a little late in coming. While I regret that it took longer, we wanted to be as thorough as possible about taking your feedback and decided to take the extra time. You can find a technical description of some of the fixes included in this service pack and download the beta by registering on the Microsoft Connect Site. We’ll have the complete list of fixes posted when the service pack releases. Pending feedback from you on this beta, our plan is to ship the final version in the next 3-4 months.
The second thing that I’d like to discuss is our support for Windows Vista, which is due to release in the coming months. Ensuring that VS2005 works well on Windows Vista is a core goal of ours. Visual Studio 2005 SP1 will run on Vista but will likely have a few compatibility issues. We are working with the Vista team to understand those, to provide workarounds where possible and also work on providing you with a set of fixes beyond SP1. We had a choice to make internally – hold up VS 2005 SP1 till we get the fixes in or decouple and ship VS 2005 SP1 as soon as possible knowing that we have to provide fixes for some of those Vista compatibility issues later. Based on your feedback of having SP1 for VS 2005 soon, we decided to separate the two. Visual Studio 2005, with its support for the .NET Framework 2.0 and add-ins to support the .NET Framework 3.0, Windows Vista, and the 2007 Microsoft Office system, provides a first-class development experience for developers.
As I’ve mentioned previously, Windows Vista will ship with the .NET Framework 3.0 pre-installed. We’re also testing to ensure that your .NET Framework 1.1 and 2.0 applications will work on Windows Vista so that your existing applications will continue to run as expected. However, we will not support Visual Studio .NET 2002 or Visual Studio .NET 2003 as development environments on Windows Vista. You can continue to use Visual Studio .NET 2002 or 2003 on Windows XP to develop applications that can run on Windows Vista. Given the customer feedback that we’ve received since the launch of Visual Studio 2005 indicating the manageability of upgrading from Visual Studio .NET 2003 to Visual Studio 2005, we are focusing our efforts on ensuring VS 2005 is a great development platform for Vista.
Previously we announced our support for ensuring the Visual Basic 6.0 runtime and IDE on Windows Vista and we are on track for delivering that support.
Namaste!
Comments
Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Beta is now available for download. There's a lot of stuff in this...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Microsoft Corporate VP S. “Soma” Somasegar has the news at his weblog:
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September 26, 2006
Beta of this is up on connect, details from Somasegar.Vista compat is great to hear, it will be interestingAnonymous
September 26, 2006
For Team Build users, I'll spare you the suspense and tell you that there are no meaningful changes in...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
What sort of issues can we expect on vista? Are you flat out telling me I can't start the IDE, or are you mearly suggesting that I'm gonna have some non-admin issues. I've not seen anything when running as non-admin on XP, nor have I seen any significant issues runnign VS2005 on Vista.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
I am glad the sp1 is there, vs 2005 works under vista with no problems with a very large c# / web / windows forms solution, and I hope the sp1 improves the overall vs 2005 performance and ability to handle large solutions.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Rather unexpectedly, the availability of a SP1 beta for Visual Studio 2005 was announced today by soma....Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Visual Studio support on Vista: doubts revealedAnonymous
September 26, 2006
Yes, very much anticipated VS2005 SP1 Beta is available through Microsoft Connect . If you signed upAnonymous
September 26, 2006
Somasegar, thanks for this...but it would be helpful if you could answer a few simple questions.
1) Will VS 2005 already run fine on Vista (without SP1) with UAC protection disabled and using an admin account? If not what areas have problems?
You say that VS 2003 will not be supported. I am find with that, as you should focus on the future, but:
2) Will VS 2003 run on Vista with UAC protection disabled and using an admin account? If not what areas have problems, or doesnt it even load?
Thanks,
DavidAnonymous
September 26, 2006
The beta for Visual Studio 2005 SP1 is available now at Microsoft Connect.  If you've been a user...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
I'm just a little confused with the messaging here. Soma says that VS 2005 will work on Vista but will likely have compatibility issues and that the VS team are working with the Vista team to 'understand' those and to find work arounds.
Gee - Vista has been 5 years in the making, and VS has been around for a while. And just a few weeks before Vista should RTM these issues should be nailed. Or is Vista a surprise to the VS team (and vice versa).
My immediate take is that if VS is not going to work on Vista, how bad is the App Compat going to be.
I agree that the VS team should not be slipping to accomotate this. But Vista sure as heck should be able to support apps like VS - and if that means slipping Vista again, then so be it. Especiallly as VS 2002/2003 are not to be supported.
Posts like this make me even more nervous about Vista. While I'm sure it wasn't Soma's intention, it's just more proof that corporates need to wait for SP1.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
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September 26, 2006
As announced on Soma's blog, Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Beta is available today. You can sign...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
VS 2005 SP1 Beta is now available for our device customers. This is a significant release for Visual...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Voir le blog de Somasegar pour plus de détail ( http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2006/09/26/772250.aspx)....Anonymous
September 26, 2006
I'm glad to see that you are not following the VS2003 SP scheduling.
Any fix for current systems that can be safely released now should be.
Vista (like any new system) will bring some issues to the table; the idea of waiting for Vista to fix current systems makes me think bad things.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
I can hardly wait to dig into these things which I have long anticipated and greatly need... bravo WIT...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
" However, we will not support Visual Studio .NET 2002 or Visual Studio .NET 2003 as development environments on Windows Vista."
This is in direct contravention of your support lifecycle policy and is unacceptable.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Seeing that the support for VS2003 will not be present on Vista is a bit worried for us. We've lots of large customers that works with .NET 1.1 applications and surely they will not be ready for a migration soon. In second, we work a lot on the Dynamics platform, and here .NET 1.1 is he standard.
Should we plan to have a machine with Vista and a machine with XP? Not so good... By doing this, you'll see that XP will be the main platform for a lot of time.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
While being able to to use VS 2003 is not important to me, building 2.0 apps is.
Will I be able to build C#/CLI/CLR 2.0 apps (with VS) without have intererence from the 3.0 (former WinFx) extensions so that the apps can run on all systems supporting 2.0Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Some interesting news appeared on Somasegar's blog this morning (in essence, he's in charge of devdiv...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Support for development IDEs on VistaAnonymous
September 26, 2006
I have to agree with Thoma's comments above. Sorry I am going to be critical.
Somasegar, this just confuses people more and does not help at all. Why is that your flag ship dev product does not work well enough with your flag ship brand new OS? Were you taken by surprise?
So for those who work for in the industry, what are we supposed to say to our clients? Oh sorry, we cannot do anything on Vista right now since we don't have a fully supported dev suite? So, why should we use either of the products? Hmmm ....
Also, not just stating VS.NET 2003 will not work, does not cut it. Is it a ploy to get people to upgrade to VS.NET 2005 (assuming it will work at some point)?
Dare I even ask about TFS and VSTS and Vista (given there are so many issues with it on XP). I suppose no hotfixes can be released to get this fixed?
Eagerly awaiting replies.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
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September 26, 2006
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September 26, 2006
The first post I noticed this morning with the good news was Brian Harry's " TFS SP1 Beta is available!!!Anonymous
September 26, 2006
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September 26, 2006
Read more at Somasegar's blog.
http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2006/09/26/772250.aspx
Alastai...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Today the Visual Studio 2005 team released Service Pack 1 Beta. Included in the beta is the new linker...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 BetaAnonymous
September 26, 2006
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September 26, 2006
One of the recurring questions I got at TechEd, was when will we be releasing the Service Pack for Visual...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
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September 26, 2006
I'm contractually obligated (the support guy) to let you know that SP1 beta for Visual Studio 2005...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Betaでました。Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Big news today was the release of beta’s of a couple of key items.  Both of these are very...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Thank you for the update.
I have been waiting a long time for SP1.
VS2005 was so buggy that I decided to wait until SP1 was released. That will essentially be the real release date for me.
I am not concerned about Vista compatability at this time.
I'm waiting for Vista SP1 first, so you will have time to resolve those issues.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Somasegar's WebLog Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Beta and Visual Studio support for Vista 오늘 VS2005 SP1 베타 공개와...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Why a beta release of Service Pack?Anonymous
September 26, 2006
I was briefed earlier today on Visual Studio support on Windows Vista, and I wanted to clear the air......Anonymous
September 26, 2006
I was briefed earlier today on Visual Studio support on Windows Vista, and I wanted to clear the air......Anonymous
September 26, 2006
S. Somasegar, le patron de la division développeur à Redmond vient d'annoncer la disponibilité du service...Anonymous
September 26, 2006
VS.Net 2003 not supported? This is beyond the belief. Or maybe not, after seeing the quality of 2005 edition.
What about the eVC IDEs?Anonymous
September 26, 2006
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September 26, 2006
Ping pong, Managed code is not the reason why VS2003 can't be supported. In fact, VS2003 is mostly unmanaged code. VS2005 has significantly more managed code than 2003.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
The first thing you folks on Visual Studio 2005 team can do is release SP1 that is NOT beta. Next you can start working on SP2 (to be released in 3-4 months) that will work with Vista.
It is a complete joke when you just released SP1 for VS2003, then you announce .NET 3.0 and now you tell us VS2003 won't work with Vista.
Most of us VS2005 supporters are still waiting to simply compile large projects. Web Site Projects (WSP) and Web Application Projects (WAP) are just other examples of incompetence when all you have to do is listen to Visual Studio developers.
Thanks for the trivial effort to release SP1 beta. If you want to win the next election you had better get your act together soon. Java is written all over this fiasco of versions.Anonymous
September 26, 2006
Somasegar posted some details on his blog concerning Vista support for different versions of the VisualAnonymous
September 26, 2006
I'm going to jump on the "I'm outraged" bandwagon and blog my disappointment, yet again,Anonymous
September 27, 2006
I really think this is quite unacceptable for a software giant like Microsoft. I truly understand Microsoft's point about Vista's features - Aero, UAC, etc... but not having backward-compatibility for developers is akin to Java's long-standing incompatibility between their JDK versions.
1. Visual Studio .NET 2003 is a product that was out 2+ years ago. Many of our customers, partners and vendors still rely on it. Not supporting VS 2003 and/or .NET 1.1 is harshly forcing everyone to upgrade to 2005 version. Many IT Departments and CTOs are unable to justify the upgrade in such a short span of time.
2. Visual Studio .NET 2003, being such a relatively new release is still under the full support cycle which means Microsoft should honour its commitment to the future of the technology. While having an "ideal case" would be good where everyone is on Vista, running with Aero support, having UAC control, etc... this is not the case in real world.
I certainly hope Microsoft will review this decision.Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
So first most of the meat was taken out of Vista, and the best of what remains (the poorly named .NETAnonymous
September 27, 2006
http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2006/09/26/772250.aspx
Follow the link to the Microsoft Connect...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
De Corporate Vice President, Developer Division, S. "Soma" Somasegar heeft op zijn weblog de komst vanAnonymous
September 27, 2006
Interscape, so what actually makes VB6 (released in 1998) run on Vista, while VS2003 is left behind?
To Microsoft: maybe you should stop worrying about Orcas and next releases, because your installed base is going to shrink significantly if you don't support previous IDEs on Vista. Given your recent history, fluff like "we're going to focus on delivering great experience with [insert codename here]" doesn't cut it anymore.Anonymous
September 27, 2006
It looks like Visual Studio 2005 and Vista will not be fully compatible. In addition VS 2003 will not...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
Why does it take Microsoft longer to release a service pack than it take most companies to release a...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
Soma announced today that beta 1 of Visual Studio 2005 SP1 is out. Looking forward to this, although...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
ברגעים אלה, קראתי את מה שנכתב במספר בלוגים [לינקים שונים] לגבי התמיכה של כלי פיתוח ב Windows Vista. בסופו...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
Somasegar's MSDN Blog has details for the Visual Studio 2005 SP1 Beta download (available from the...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
P.S. I'd just like to add that it is my opinion that if Visual Studio 2005 requires a service pack and the previous versions of Visual Studio become unsupported then it is an egregious failing on the part of the Operating Systems division at Microsoft. There is absolutely no reason that the new operating system cannot support all previous applications save those which rely on explicitly insecure legacy, and if recent Microsoft products also fit into that category then we have an even bigger problem than I had originally thought.Anonymous
September 27, 2006
So to all critics abov, I'd like to mention, that I don't agree with you. The only reason for me using VS 2003 is if you have old projects and you don't want to migrate them to VS 2005 (which you should consider). For every other case I can't understand anybody still using VS 2003, VS 2005 is so much more productive.
And who forces you to use vista? If you use a old Development envirionment why not using XP for a while? I plan to continue using Xp on my production machine for the next vew month even I use VS 2005.Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
@TSchissler:
We provide compiled binaries for use with different versions of Visual Studio (I have VC6, VS 2003, VS 2005, eVC3 and eVC4 installed). As long as our customers do not migrate to bug-ridden VS 2005, switching is not an option (and I hate to tell you that VS 2005 adoption rate among them is rather low).
Nobody forces us to use Vista, and as a matter of fact we won't use it as long as MS doesn't provide support for IDEs (which probably means never.)
And no, we don't care much for managed code.
> For every other case I can't understand anybody
> still using VS 2003, VS 2005 is so much more
> productive.
Yep, especially when it hangs or crashes.Anonymous
September 27, 2006
The Good News is that we have Service Pack 1 for Visual Studio available in Beta (so you are on your own with that :>). The bad news is that Visual Studio 2005 will only work, and then with specific problems. Somasegar expalins this a little bitAnonymous
September 27, 2006
There was an announcement made this week about Visual Studio 2005 SP1 and support for Vista. In a nutshell,...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
There was an announcement made this week about Visual Studio 2005 SP1 and support for Vista. In a nutshell,...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
Guys, have you heard about Delphi? (or C#, C++, the DTG way)
We can compile form WIN32 to .Net with very few changes, our previous and new delphi versions work with almost no issues in Vista.
Backwards compatilibity had been and IS for Delphi a MAJOR concern, we will burn alive Borland if they do to us what MS did with VB and VB.Net then to .Net 1.1 vs Net 2.0 and now to VS2002 and VS2003.
Give it a shot, for free. http://www.turboexplorer.comAnonymous
September 27, 2006
Windows Vista will be released later this year to partners and volume license customers and in the beginning of 2007 to the masses. A successful release of a software product such as Windows Vista req...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
The Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Beta has just been released.  Here's the official announcement. ...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
The announcement of the beta of SP1 for Vista on somasegar's blog here seems to have caused some consternation since they're saying they need a new service pack for Vista and VS2003 won't be supported.The truth is a bit more mixed than that as Scott GuthAnonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
S. Somasegar has a post on his blog about Visual Studio 2002/2003 not being supported on Windows Vista...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
S. Somasegar has a post on his blog about the delay in the release of VS 2005 SP1 (it was due in Q3 2006...Anonymous
September 27, 2006
Simply put, this will have a pretty serious chilling effect concerning the adoption of Vista for my team and our customers. It is disturbing to hear this degree of uncertianty concerning the ability of 2.0-based applications to run successfully and without issue on Vista. Now we either freeze our customers and their OS pruchases on XP or must plan for the possibility of patch releases merely to support the new OS. Very disapointing.
It also is a circumstance that is very difficult to reconcile with the Allchin letter you referenced in your 9/15 post. Mr. Allchin's statement that "You have GOT to be ready for this opportunity" sounds like it is being followed by a MIcrosoft parenthetical that reads "because we certainly are not."Anonymous
September 27, 2006
Visual Studio の Windows Vista サポートAnonymous
September 27, 2006
I still can't find the release notes? Anyone have any luck?Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
If you’re a developer today writing .NET apps, you’re either writing them with Visual StudioAnonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
There have been some questions on run-time compatibility. I want to reiterate that .NET Framework 1.1 and .NET Framework 2.0 applications will continue to work as expected on Windows Vista.
- somasegarAnonymous
September 27, 2006
When you think hundreds of weblogs are going to blog about the new release of Windows Live Writer, SomasegarAnonymous
September 27, 2006
When you think hundreds of weblogs are going to blog about the new release of Windows Live Writer, SomasegarAnonymous
September 27, 2006
I think this was told by developers to Microsoft MANY times! Stop calling WinFx as .NETFW3.0!
It's a mess when seeing Microsoft renaming and how products are versioned. It's BIG MESS and this upsets developers because this makes troubles to them when they have to explain this to their clients.
So stop to haze .net developers with this naming mess, or event your comunnity will get very agry to microsoft.Anonymous
September 27, 2006
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September 27, 2006
"Soma" Somasegar , Corporate Vice President Developer Division určitě mnoho lidí svým oznámením nepotěšil.Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Found on LonghornBlogs this interesting post from Robert Law...
{
I was briefed earlier today on Visual...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
The release notes for Visual Studio 2003 .NET SP1 (
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;924009) list Windows Vista as a supported operating system. Obviously there's not a whole lot of testing that goes into this sort of thing.Anonymous
September 28, 2006
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September 28, 2006
I can't believe it's going to take 3-4 months to release VS2005 SP1. That just seems absolutely absurd to me, especially after waiting for so long to have some of these VS2005 annoyances resolved.
Listen, Somasegar, I mean no disrespect, but something has to change here. MS must get into a position where it can release service packs to Visual Studio within a reasonable amount of time; take smaller bites if you need to. It's difficult for me to believe that Microsoft, of all companies, cannot accelerate this time frame.
And like the others, I think the decision not to support VS2003 on Vista is a big mistake. But then I thought that calling WinFX ".NET 3.0" was a mistake, too.Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Found on LonghornBlogs this interesting post from Robert Law ... { I was briefed earlier today on VisualAnonymous
September 28, 2006
Check out Somasegar's announcement on Visual Studio 2005 SP1 and Visual Studio Support for Vista. There...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Check out Somasegar's announcement on Visual Studio 2005 SP1 beta and Visual Studio Support...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Scrap Vista and start over! You guys at Microsoft have surely jumped the shark on Vista. I'm shortly celebrating the 5th anniversary of the release of the public Vista bits without a release. If I were in your position at my job, I surely would have been fired already.
And now the announcement that VS.NET 2003 SP1 will not run on Vista?!? You've got to be kidding! (Checking calendar -- Nope not April 1st...)
Thankfully prices are dropping on Intel Macs. Mass Exodus to Macs/Linux, MySQL, Rails, Java, etc?
Whatever happened to Developers, Developers, Developers???Anonymous
September 28, 2006
So after years of telling clients to upgrade their VB6 apps to .net I've now got to tell them that if they want to maintain their .net 1.1 apps on Vista, they've got to upgrade them to .net 2? (With a new, more expensive version of VS which doesn't work right on Vista yet).
Or, they could just dig out the old VB6 source code, because that's supported...
Nice move Microsoft. Not. (dot net? or dot not?)Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Somasegar's WebLog always with big announcement. He is announcing the Service Pack 1 of Visual StudioAnonymous
September 28, 2006
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September 28, 2006
I downloaded it VS2005 SP1 Beta tried to install it on 3 different machines. Tried the workarounds from the Connect forums. Downloaded the release notes. Tried those workarounds. Still no go.
I'd love to see improvements in VS2005, I guess I'll have to wait until Beta2. I hate being a Beta tester.Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Long time no see, I've been very busy at work, so this is my first post for a while. Soma blogs aboutAnonymous
September 28, 2006
Lack of support for running VS 2003 will be a show stopper for me. I will not convert my main work PC to Vista, absent support for VS 2003 (which continues to be used by a large number of my clients).Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Ha comenzado a generar algo de noticias el post de Somasegar acerca del soporte que Microsoft tendrá...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Ha comenzado a generar algo de noticias el post de Somasegar acerca del soporte que Microsoft tendrá...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Al parecer el soporte de Visual Studio en Windows Vista no será como se esperaría.Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Al parecer el soporte de Visual Studio en Windows Vista no será como se esperaría.Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Al parecer el soporte de Visual Studio en Windows Vista no será como se esperaría.Anonymous
September 28, 2006
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September 28, 2006
The correct url location for the VS 2005 Service Pack 1 Beta release notes is below.
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The VS 2005 Service Pack 1 Beta Release notes can be found at the url below. You don't have to log into the connect site to access the release notes.
http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/Downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?DownloadID=3249
Thanks for testing the beta service pack
Bruce
Thanks for testing the beta service pack
BruceAnonymous
September 28, 2006
Welcome to the fifth Community Convergence update. This file is published on my blog, and shortly thereafter...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Microsoft ha liberado el Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1) Beta, el cual incorpora los 'fixes'...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
Microsoft ha liberado el Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1) Beta, el cual incorpora los 'fixes'...Anonymous
September 28, 2006
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September 28, 2006
Somasegar,
I was wondering if you are going to respond to any of the questions / comments here? It would be nice to get Microsoft's thoughts and issues.
Given there are many people quite passionate about this?
Anyone listening (from MS)????Anonymous
September 28, 2006
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September 29, 2006
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September 29, 2006
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September 29, 2006
Amit,
I do want to provide a detail list of issues and any workarounds that we know of to customers. We have a team working on this as we speak and we will be publish more specific information soon.
- somasegarAnonymous
September 29, 2006
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September 29, 2006
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September 29, 2006
I just cannot stress how upset I am with the Visual Studio team. Since VS2005 was released, developersAnonymous
September 29, 2006
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September 29, 2006
For those people with performance problems in VS 2005, we'd like to help. If you can, please start by downloading SP1. We've fixed a number of performance problems, and we'd like to know if we've fixed your problem.
If you're still having performance problems with VS 2005, please drop me a note at DevPerf@Microsoft.com. Let me know about how big your solution is (# projects, # files, size of files), and what language and type of applications you're developing. Most importantly, if you can give me specific steps to reproduce the problem, and quantify how bad it is, that would be a great help.
Thanks,
Dave Berg
Microsoft Developer Division, Performance Engineering TeamAnonymous
September 30, 2006
Ok, so now we know that Windows Vista won't support VisualStudio .NET 2003.  Its interesting that...Anonymous
September 30, 2006
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September 30, 2006
[From Somasegar's WebLog ] http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2006/09/26/772250.aspx Visual StudioAnonymous
September 30, 2006
Somebody can to do a good alternative Operating System?
No Vista ,"Blind", no .Net ,no .Java.......Anonymous
September 30, 2006
I understand that old development tools have troubles integration with the new security model of Vista, and I also understand that it would be a major effort to adapt and test the VS.NET 2003 code to support it.
However, given the investments Microsoft partners have made into .NET 1.1, and given Microsofts commitment via its product life cycle, I really think MS should take the pain and provide a service pack of VS.NET 2003 at least that runs on Vista.
A better alternative event would be to provide a VS 2005 service pack that can target .NET 1.1 too. The tight coupling of VS and .NET versions is a pain anyway, and it's a problem that more componentized environments don't have. I bet a lot of people would love that feature, and given the pressure that not supporting VS.NET 2003 creates, this might just be the time to justify this investment. After all, developers are probably the last people on earth MS would want to not migrate to Vista, right?Anonymous
September 30, 2006
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September 30, 2006
Voordat je verder leest, lees eerst eens dit artikel van Somasegar. Ik wacht wel even...   Goed....Anonymous
October 01, 2006
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October 01, 2006
Vista won't support VS 2003 and availability of VS2005 SP1 betaAnonymous
October 01, 2006
So now you're claiming that the VB6 IDE works on Windows XP? (Sorry, that's a cheapshot.)
Frankly, I think this is obscene. I think I need to wait until I've calmed down considerably to comment on this in full.Anonymous
October 01, 2006
I was briefed earlier today on Visual Studio support on Windows Vista , and I wanted to clear the air...Anonymous
October 01, 2006
Is Backward Compatibility Holding Microsoft BackAnonymous
October 01, 2006
PingBack from http://deedee.brainstream.net/VisualStudio2005SP1Betas.aspxAnonymous
October 02, 2006
Hey Soma, where you say: >> Previously we announced our support for ensuring the Visual Basic 6.0 runtime and IDE on Windows Vista and we are on track for delivering that support. << The link on the word "support" 404s! What are you really trying to say, there, hmmmm?Anonymous
October 02, 2006
"Visual Studio 2005 SP1 will run on Vista but will likely have a few compatibility issues. We are working with the Vista team to understand those"
- So Vista's been in development for over 5 years and a few weeks before RTM you're working with the OS team to "understand" the compatability issues?? "Given the customer feedback that we’ve received since the launch of Visual Studio 2005 indicating the manageability of upgrading from Visual Studio .NET 2003 to Visual Studio 2005, we are focusing our efforts on ensuring VS 2005 is a great development platform for Vista."
- And didn't anyone at MS notice that the lack of support for VS2003 may upset a significant number of your developer/customers? Did you actually solicit any feedback from customers regarding this issue? One has to always wonder where are you getting that "customer feedback" that you always claim to be driving your decisions.
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October 02, 2006
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October 02, 2006
Here is another link to the support statement for VB6 IDE on Vista: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbrun/ms788708.aspxAnonymous
October 02, 2006
The ServerSide.NET reports a worrying story that has started late last week, but caught my attention earlier this morning. The route of the article stems from this blog, as filed by a Microsoft VP annoucning that almost a year after...Anonymous
October 02, 2006
Great that you have access to the Vista team, for the rest of us it is really a pain to make our software compatible to Vista. So thanks Microsoft for all the extra work!! "We are working with the Vista team to understand those, to provide workarounds where possible and also work on providing you with a set of fixes beyond SP1"Anonymous
October 02, 2006
Rob Paulson: somasegar's post from friday 11:03 makes that all sound not quite as straightforward. VS 2003 and 2005 might have worked for you with UAC disabled. but you might experience additional problems once you use certain features. if MS came out with a statement that says everything was tested and works fine with UAC disabled, i'd agree with you, but that hasn't happened so far.Anonymous
October 02, 2006
The url for VS 2005 SP1 Beta Release Notes returns a page not found Error : http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/Downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?DownloadID=3249 Could you tell me where i can download the release notes ?Anonymous
October 03, 2006
Huh? What's this? You'll support VB 6.0 on Vista (even the IDE) and VS2005 but not VS2003? How does that happen? I thought .NET was exactly about shielding the developper away from the hassles of directly using Win32 by introducing a virtual machine? Doesn't .NET 1.1 run un Visa or why won't VS2003 work there? Or is it simply: It may work, but if it doesn't don't bother to contact our support, because we'd ignore these issues anyway?Anonymous
October 03, 2006
Some VS2003 user: VS is primarily unmanaged code, and a lot of that code is very low-level. others have explained this here, and somasegar himself has pointed out repeatedly that there are no problems with the .net runtime on vista in any version.Anonymous
October 03, 2006
Somasegar blogged last week about the availability of a beta release of SP1 for Visual Studio 2005 soAnonymous
October 03, 2006
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October 03, 2006
Microsoft should at least officially support VS2003 on Vista with UAC disabled.Anonymous
October 03, 2006
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October 04, 2006
Okay, VS may indeed be unmanaged code, but one thing is really better with the Borland brand of products: you can compily ANY code from previous versions with the latest without much hassle if you don't use 3rd party addons or if you have the correct verisions of them. As it seems VS2005 can't do .NET V1.1 applications anymore? Am I right? If yes, why? Why always forcing the developper to upgrade? It seems several billion dollars profit every year is not enough... (at least for some)Anonymous
October 04, 2006
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October 04, 2006
I have tried to wait and calm down before writing a comment on this, but I have to realise I will not calm down on this issue. I must say that MS has made a very bad decision here. Vista is so late, several of the main features has been removed still there won't be a .NET develoment environment that work without problems on it (as I understand not even 2005 with SP1 will work without problems). I don't know which studio version that is most common today, but most of those I talk to still do most of the work with VS 2003. VS 2005 is only used if is really necesary to develop for .NET 2.0, otherwise many prefer 1.1 (or actually VS 2003). Somaseger says several times that .NET 1.1 applications will run on Vista. I assume that he never installed .NET 1.1 on Vista. Since it for some reason that I don't understand the 1.1 framework is not included in Vista. When installing it you get a warning about compatibility issues. So from my point of view I can not say to my customers that my 1.1 applications work on Vista since I can not accept that my customers should see the installation warnings/errors that currently exist when installing .NET 1.1 framwork on Vista.Anonymous
October 04, 2006
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October 04, 2006
As announced on Soma's blog, Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Beta is available today. You can signAnonymous
October 04, 2006
Here are some great resources from our Debugging .NET geekSpeak with John Robbins. John's blog http://www.wintellect.com/Weblogs/CategoryView,category,John%20Robbins.aspxAnonymous
October 05, 2006
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October 05, 2006
The reason I wonder that is because our dev teams seem to be pumping stuff out the door so fast at theAnonymous
October 08, 2006
The Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Beta has just been released. Here's the official announcement .Anonymous
October 09, 2006
I like VS 2005 (even though it has some performance problems) and I love C++/CLI very much. All my new projects target this development platform. But on the other side, there is a past. I have to maintain even (machine control) applications that still run on DOS and Windows 3.1. Therefore I have a lot of different compilers installed (copied) on my primary development machine. The majority of code I have to support uses VS2002. But there is also a significant amount of code that requires Borland C++ V4.5 (more than 100 machines run software produced with this compiler). So far there was never a problem compiling under NT/Win2K/XP all this ancient software. I hope, that this will also be true for Vista (with UAC turned off and working as an administrator). Otherwise Vista is not an operating system for developers.Anonymous
October 09, 2006
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October 10, 2006
Via Tim ... Some important news came out recently regarding visual studio 2005 and visual studio versionAnonymous
October 10, 2006
This one is a couple of weeks old, but Soma has indicated that VS2002 and VS2003 will not be supportedAnonymous
October 10, 2006
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October 12, 2006
There is now one more reason why it will be a long time before we deploy Vista here. Oh well.Anonymous
October 13, 2006
Microsoft ha liberado el Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1) Beta, el cual incorpora los 'fixes'...Anonymous
October 14, 2006
I am trying to access the site, it seems that its down.Anonymous
October 17, 2006
We are investing a lot of time in ensuring applications that work on Windows XP will work on WindowsAnonymous
October 17, 2006
I installed Windows Vista RC2 a couple of weeks ago and started working on some of the remaining issuesAnonymous
October 18, 2006
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October 18, 2006
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October 20, 2006
Nobody forces you to develop on Vista, like previously said you can still develop on XP and target a Vista machine. So, what you will need if you want to continue to develope using VS2003 is to run Vista on a separate machine or in a virtual machine on your dev machine for testing purposes. What are you all complaining about ? You still have all the options available to you and your apps will still work on Vista. Please learn to read, and learn how to understand what you read, some of you here seem to have real problems with that.Anonymous
October 23, 2006
"Nobody forces you to develop on Vista, like previously said you can still develop on XP and target a Vista machine." So, what you will need if you want to continue to develope using VS2003 is to run Vista on a separate machine or in a virtual machine on your dev machine for testing purposes. (...)" I'm afraid this is not enough ! We must be able to debug programs under vista since its API implementation is not perfectly backward compliant with XP, 2000, (what else…) It is impossible to discard VS2003 so simply…Anonymous
October 27, 2006
Service Pack 1 (SP1) for Visual Studio 2005 clients and Team Foundation Server is scheduled to releaseAnonymous
October 27, 2006
Service Pack 1 (SP1) for Visual Studio 2005 clients and Team Foundation Server is scheduled...Anonymous
October 30, 2006
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November 07, 2006
A while ago Somasegar's blog post about MS not supporting Visual Studio 2003 on Windows Vista causedAnonymous
November 08, 2006
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November 12, 2006
S. Somasegar has a post on his blog about the delay in the release of VS 2005 SP1 (it was due in Q3 2006Anonymous
November 12, 2006
I've upgraded my home computer from Windows XP sp2 to Vista , which you must have heard that MicrosoftAnonymous
November 14, 2006
Vista's done! Finally :) For those who have tried the beta or an Release Candidate, you'll notice a fewAnonymous
November 17, 2006
Today the Visual Studio 2005 team released Service Pack 1 Beta . Included in the beta is the new linkerAnonymous
November 20, 2006
After backing up my files (and checking things twice), I decided to install Windows Vista Ultimate lastAnonymous
November 21, 2006
Après Vista et les jeux , voici Vista et les développeurs: Tout d'abord, si vous développez sous VS 2002Anonymous
November 28, 2006
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December 05, 2006
When my laptop died a horrible NTLDR-is-missing-death I decided it was time to get into the Temple of...Anonymous
December 15, 2006
Yesterday, I installed Windows Vista as a fresh install (that is, I wasn't upgrading another Windows...Anonymous
December 17, 2006
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December 18, 2006
Before installing the release of Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 , you must uninstall the Service PackAnonymous
December 18, 2006
Before installing the release of Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 , you must uninstall the Service PackAnonymous
December 20, 2006
PingBack from http://blog.aheil.de/VisualStudio2005ServicePack1.aspxAnonymous
December 28, 2006
So we have a few service packs to talk about.... Firstly, Visual Studio 2005, SP1 is now in beta testing.Anonymous
January 07, 2007
If you are using Vista as your web development platform with Visual Studio 2005 then the following informationAnonymous
January 08, 2007
A useful list post for web development over Windows Vista (pasted below)via Doug If you are using Vista...Anonymous
January 16, 2007
This is not what was stated by Somasager stated , here is what he said: However, we will not supportAnonymous
January 16, 2007
I'm not sure how this one got started. I've even seen some document out there on a major siteAnonymous
January 22, 2007
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February 05, 2007
I have had about 5 people ask me about Visual Studio .NET 2003/2005 and Windows Vista, so I thought IAnonymous
February 24, 2007
PingBack from http://bobondevelopment.com/2006/12/17/windows-vista-wait-for-sp1-at-least/Anonymous
March 05, 2007
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June 14, 2007
OK, I Love VB6 still, so I did allow myself a little grin when I read this.Anonymous
July 21, 2007
PingBack from http://devinstall.msiblog.com/2006/09/26/visual-studio-2005-sp1-beta-and-windows-vista/Anonymous
October 15, 2007
We are pleased to announce the availability of the beta of Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1. You canAnonymous
January 05, 2008
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January 05, 2008
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April 10, 2008
Somasegar posted some details on his blog concerning Vista support for different versions of the VisualAnonymous
April 16, 2008
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June 04, 2008
Today, I’m pleased to announce the availability of the beta of Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1. Based on your feedback, Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 addresses issues that were found through a combination of customer reports, MSDN Product FeedbacAnonymous
August 14, 2008
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January 20, 2009
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January 21, 2009
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May 29, 2009
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June 13, 2009
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June 15, 2009
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June 16, 2009
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